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Post by zaneo on Feb 24, 2006 8:10:21 GMT -5
i know i was in ex longewr than you i wasn't sure if you were talking about GE Or eX
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Post by Vaelen on Feb 24, 2006 16:15:20 GMT -5
Oh. Well, weve been talking mostly with eX. GE has a few good people too though.
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Post by eX_Slapshot on Feb 27, 2006 20:49:32 GMT -5
Not for sure that the deal between eX and GE is going through. Ryan came in and started explaining Darchnid's demands, but nobody really wants to give in to any "demands."
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Post by Vaelen on Feb 27, 2006 21:46:21 GMT -5
Where is the new forums at?
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Post by eX_Slapshot on Feb 27, 2006 21:49:20 GMT -5
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Post by renegadepsycho on Mar 3, 2006 13:27:09 GMT -5
WOW...NICE FORUMS
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Post by (>FSB<)Volxen on Mar 3, 2006 14:00:31 GMT -5
I am just going to say now that i do not think an alliance will work out. Although there are indeed good eX members I still have respect for, the council (more specifially, Fookage and Narsil) has shown how corrupt it is by kicking Spartan off the Council, at least partly (Spartan seems to think its because of something else), because he disagreed with them on ending this war and meeting the "demand" of the Empire. This is completly unnacceptable, because he was elected to his position by the members, and those two are not "supposed" to be able to do that, but it is evident Narsil now views eXistence as "his clan" since they are on his forums. The only High Counciler I have respect for now is Winter, after this completly unnacceptable action of the eXistence High Council.
I encourage the members to rebel against this and demand Spartan is given his position back, since all of you voted him into that position to begin with. I think this is also evidence enough that neither Narsil nor Fookage belong on the High Council.
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Post by Vaelen on Mar 3, 2006 16:42:05 GMT -5
Ryan, your definitely right. Though a good many eX members are friends, and most of the clan isnt even involved in the whole political issues, its really the leadership that counts.
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Post by (>FSB<)Volxen on Mar 3, 2006 18:24:25 GMT -5
Yes, and a good portion of their leadership is a joke. The eXistence I know is fading away, and turning into this clan that is "Narsils clan".
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Post by eX_Slapshot on Mar 3, 2006 19:09:28 GMT -5
Ryan, it doesn't look like Sparty is doing anything about it. You are still acting like a member of eXistence, trying to make us do certain things. I don't like Sparty being kicked, but as a councilor, the new system is a hell of a lot better than the old one. You need to look at both sides of the story here.
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Post by Sparty on Mar 3, 2006 19:20:04 GMT -5
YOU ARE NOT A COUNCILOR. YOU ARE A CHAPTER COMMANDER. YOU AND THE OTHER CCs ARE UNDER GAMBIT IN A LITTLE COMMITTEE. YOU DON"T HAVE A POSITION ON THE HIGH COUNCIL. As you can see, it is aggravating me that you are saying so. And of course the system looks better if you are on the High Council; they are totally in control. They make the Council. They can do whatever they please with the clan. It is theirs. Also, you can't judge the system yet. You cannot tell if it is better or worse than the old one.
I am "not doing anything about it" because if I do, it'll just seem that I am attacking the Council out of my own personal interest. I have always worked for the clan. Not myself. I don't plan on starting now.
What bothers me is that all those who ever had the balls to stand up agaisnt the council for breaking rules are the ones who have left. Shuuto, Phantom, Ryan: all of them are against the Council's actions, but are in no position to do anything about it. Our members are either too young and preoccupied with the Misc forum, or do whatever they are told. If this situation didn't directly involve me in the way it does, you know I would be out there fighting this. But I can't.
If I were to fight this, I would have no support because of my role in it. It would appear as though I am a power hungry, spiteful person. Things I am not. That is why I am "not doing anything about it."
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Post by Vaelen on Mar 3, 2006 19:20:14 GMT -5
Also true. If sparty doesnt have a problem with it, i dont see why we should make a fuss.
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Post by eX_Slapshot on Mar 3, 2006 19:23:41 GMT -5
I was added to the Council Usergroup and am a part of the Full Council. That seems like one to me.
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Post by Sparty on Mar 3, 2006 19:23:47 GMT -5
I have a huge problem with it, but you should be preoccupied with eXistence's issues. Just focus on not putting FSB in the same position.
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Post by Sparty on Mar 3, 2006 19:26:01 GMT -5
The full Council could possibly consist of 30 members. You are a CC, not a councilor. You are in the Full council, not the High Council. Big differentce. You don't make clan decisions. Gambit just tells you what to do, and in return, you get to have limited input in the decision making process.
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